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The Strong Towns Podcast is a weekly conversation on the Strong Towns movement, hosted by Strong Towns Founder and President Charles Marohn and frequently featuring special guests. The podcast explores how we can financially strengthen our cities, towns, and neighborhoods and, in the process, make them better places to live. Join Chuck in examining how everything from urban design to economics to systems theory to psychology helps inform this core question.
The Strong Towns Podcast is a weekly conversation on the Strong Towns movement, hosted by Strong Towns Founder and President Charles Marohn and frequently featuring special guests. The podcast explores how we can financially strengthen our cities, towns, and neighborhoods and, in the process, make them better places to live. Join Chuck in examining how everything from urban design to economics to systems theory to psychology helps inform this core question.
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Thursday Jul 19, 2018
Suburban Poverty Meets Sprawl Retrofit
Thursday Jul 19, 2018
Thursday Jul 19, 2018
This is our fourth dispatch from the Congress for the New Urbanism (CNU), which took place in Savannah, Georgia in May. Chuck Marohn attended CNU and hosted a series of in-depth podcast conversations about some of the most pressing topics for cities today, with leaders, thinkers, and activists in a whole range of fields. Now we're bringing those podcasts to your ears throughout the summer.
In this episode, June Williamson (associate professor of architecture at the City College of New York), Dan Reed (urban planner and writer) and Galina Tachieva (managing partner at DPZ), discuss the clashes and overlaps between sprawl retrofit and suburban poverty.
Questions discussed in this podcast include:
- What's the latest research on sprawl retrofit?
- What are some successful examples of sprawl retrofit?
- Can retrofit happen using a basic, repeatable template, or do local leaders need to be equipped to decide what's best for their community?
- In smaller communities without deep pockets, where is the capital going to come from to make these sorts of changes?
- Where should we invest the money and time to do retrofit, and where does it make more sense to "re-green," i.e. return failing suburban developments back to nature? How do we, culturally, make these decisions when they impact real towns and real (often low-income) people?
- How do communities handle the increasing pressure on their suburban areas to maintain a certain lifestyle while many of the residents who live in these places simply can't afford the immense costs of suburban infrastructure?
- In communities dominated by failing suburban developments and utterly lacking investment, is there any strategy to save them?
- Many lower income Americans who reach a level of financial comfort want to make their homes in the suburbs. Should people (like New Urbanists) who feel they see the writing on the wall in terms of the declining future of suburbs tell these folks to give up on their dream of owning a home in the suburbs?
- What mental models and assumptions are enabling and underlying the decisions that have gone into the suburban development pattern?
- What will America look like 20 years from now if suburban retrofit succeeds? What percent of America can actually be retrofitted?

Thursday Jul 12, 2018
What does it mean to build a vibrant community?
Thursday Jul 12, 2018
Thursday Jul 12, 2018
Quint Studer is the founder of Pensacola, Florida's Studer Community Institute, a nonprofit organization focused on improving the community's quality of life and moving Escambia and Santa Rosa Counties forward. He is a businessman, visionary, entrepreneur and Strong Towns member. His new book is Building A Vibrant Community: How Citizen-Powered Change Is Reshaping America.
In this engaging conversation, Chuck Marohn and Quint Studer discuss:
- What does it mean to be a vibrant community?
- How do leaders help communities get unstuck from a negative trajectory?
- Should we stop wasting time trying to appeal to and listen to the naysayers in our towns?
- How do you balance the need to take small, incremental steps with community desires to execute big visions and address big problems?
- How can we learn from other communities' successes without trying to copy exactly what they've done in our town?
- Why is downtown the best place to begin your community's revitalization efforts?
- What is the role of local government in guiding the future of a successful town?
- How important are wealthy community benefactors today?
- How can revitalization efforts benefit all residents, especially those in poorer neighborhoods?

Thursday Jul 05, 2018
Ask Strong Towns #4 (June 2018)
Thursday Jul 05, 2018
Thursday Jul 05, 2018
Every month, we host Ask Strong Towns to give you a chance to ask your burning questions about our vision for change, and how the Strong Towns approach might apply in your unique place.
The live Ask Strong Towns webcast is open to all Strong Towns members, but afterward, we share the audio on our podcast.
Below you'll find that audio, with a conversation led by Strong Towns staff members, Chuck Marohn and Kea Wilson. In this episode, Chuck and Kea discuss several audience-submitted questions on topics ranging from from parking minimums to density to how young people can help build Strong Towns
Here are the questions discussed in this episode:
- What are some of the arguments you’ve heard over the years “for” parking minimums (i.e. leaving it the way we’ve always done it), rather than moving towards a parking maximum model? If I'm going in front of elected officials to lobby for a change, what arguments should I anticipate and how should I answer them?
- If a city has large green- or gray-field lots, what can it do to promote fine-grained development in these places, especially in climates where developers are hungry to build the biggest project they can?
- When talking to policymakers, how can you shift the conversation away from the overly simple "all density is good density" and towards adding value through a broader set of solutions, like mixed use development, multi-story buildings, limited parking, infill development, etc.?
- I go to college a few hours from my home, and my home is immediately outside of the principal city in my region. What can I do during my college years to stay involved in a city I don't live in at all during the year, but that I intend to move into after my career?
- What do you think of special “District” initiatives, the "Cultural Innovation District" in New Orleans?
- As a young(ish) engineer who subscribes to Strong Towns ideas and wants to make a difference in his home town, would you recommend that I pursue a planning degree in addition to my civil engineering degree, especially if I have a chance to work in city government?
- People in our small town tend to be very engaged and hold strong opinions. Big community issues can turn nasty, especially now with social media. Any suggestions on how to engage civil discourse without personal attacks?
- Our town is embarking on a large development project in the core of downtown financed via a Tax Increment Financing. The short version of the explanation we got from our Town Council is that the tax revenue generated from the new project will be set aside to fund the project. Doesn't TIF = debt? What questions would help enlighten our taxpayers?

Monday Jul 02, 2018
Monday Jul 02, 2018
On this episode, Rachel introduces her colleague, Jacob Moses, who is Strong Towns' new Community Builder. Jacob discusses his unique background in technical writing and grocery store management, and how he ended up at Strong Towns.
Mentioned in this podcast
- Expand Your Impact with Social Media (webcast), 11am CT on July 25
- This Is Where You Belong: Finding Home Wherever You Are by Melody Warnick
- The Future of Public Space by Michelle Nijhuis, Jaron Lanier, Rachel Monroe, China Mieville & more

Thursday Jun 28, 2018
Autonomous Vehicles: Separating the Hype from Reality
Thursday Jun 28, 2018
Thursday Jun 28, 2018
This is our fourth dispatch from the Congress for the New Urbanism (CNU), which took place in Savannah, Georgia in May. Chuck Marohn attended CNU and hosted a series of in-depth podcast conversations about some of the most pressing topics for cities today, with leaders, thinkers, and activists in a whole range of fields. Now we're bringing those podcasts to your ears throughout the summer.
In this episode, Jeffrey Tumlin, Principal and Director of Strategy at Nelson Nygaard, and Corey Ershow, Transportation Policy Manager at Lyft, discuss the hype around autonomous vehicles and what the AV future might actually look like.
Questions discussed in this podcast include:
- How will autonomous vehicles fit into our existing taxi and ride-hailing network?
- How far are we in the technological progression toward autonomous vehicles?
- Autonomous vehicles seem to work okay on a closed course, but what about in a complex urban space?
- If we don't criminalize "jaywalking," how can humans and autonomous vehicles interact in a way that allows both to move freely and safely in an urban environment?
- Will autonomous vehicles take over our cities and marginalize pedestrians, or might the opposite happen as a result of automation?
- Will autonomous vehicles encourage longer suburban commuting?
- What are governments doing right, in anticipation of autonomous vehicles?

Monday Jun 25, 2018
The Week Ahead: Get to know our new summer intern
Monday Jun 25, 2018
Monday Jun 25, 2018
This week, Rachel's guest is Connor Nielsen, our summer intern who is working with both Strong Towns and our friends at the geoanalytics firm, Urban3, to share data-related stories throughout the next few months. Connor talks about what led him to this internship and what he hopes to work on this summer.
MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE
- Urban3
- Connor's writing on Strong Towns
- Ask Strong Towns webcast, Thursday at 12pm CT
- Guns, Germs and Steel by Jared Diamond
- The Liturgists (podcast)
- The Good Place (TV show)

Thursday Jun 21, 2018
Absolution and the Changing American City
Thursday Jun 21, 2018
Thursday Jun 21, 2018
This is our third dispatch from the Congress for the New Urbanism (CNU), which took place in Savannah, Georgia in May. Chuck Marohn attended CNU and hosted a series of in-depth podcast conversations about some of the most pressing topics for cities today, with leaders, thinkers, and activists in a whole range of fields. Now we're bringing those podcasts to your ears throughout the summer.
In this episode, David Rau, a New York-city based architect and Steve Mouzon, an architect and author of The Original Green, discuss the past, present and future of American architecture. They contemplate what it means for a new generation to reject or forgive the design choices of previous generations, particularly in light of recent conversations about the removal of Confederate monuments in American cities.
Questions discussed in this podcast include:
- What are the key differences between traditional architecture and modern architecture?
- Is a willingness to accept or reject changes as humans wired into our DNA? Are liberals more interested in moving forward and conservatives more interested in keeping this as they are?
- How does the concept of absolution apply to current conversations about new urbanism? What does the process of absolution look like?
- How can we be fair judges of city builders in the past while still maintaining a critical eye toward their failings? As city builders today, how would we want to be judged by future generations?
- Is our ability to absolve people and places of the past correlated with the level of power we have or have not gained today?
- What makes a place "lovable?"

Monday Jun 18, 2018
The Week Ahead: Bee Season
Monday Jun 18, 2018
Monday Jun 18, 2018
Rachel's guest this week is Michelle Erfurt, Strong Towns' Pathfinder. She shares an update on Strong Towns' events for the year and the amazing reach that the Strong Towns message has been having. Michelle and Rachel also dish about their latest favorite books and tv shows. If you want to book a Strong Towns event, head to this page to get in touch with Michelle.
Mentioned in this podcast
- Chuck speaks at the International City/County Management Association's Annual Conference in Baltimore
- Strong Towns events in:
- 8 Lessons Learned from Starting my First Garden by Michelle Erfurt
- Queer Eye for the Straight Guy
- Red Sparrow by Jason Matthews
- Homegoing by Yaa Gyasi

Thursday Jun 14, 2018
Even Historic Cities Face Auto-Oriented Design Problems
Thursday Jun 14, 2018
Thursday Jun 14, 2018
This is our second dispatch from the Congress for the New Urbanism (CNU), which took place in Savannah, Georgia in May. Chuck Marohn attended CNU and hosted a series of in-depth podcast conversations about some of the most pressing topics for cities today, with leaders, thinkers, and activists in a whole range of fields. Now we're bringing those podcasts to your ears throughout the summer.
One month after the Congress, today's podcast guests are Andres Duany and Kevin Klinkenberg, who discuss the host city of Savannah. Andres is one of the founders of CNU and Kevin is a long-time Savannah resident. Both are architects and planners, and both were deeply involved with producing the Congress this year.
Questions discussed in this podcast include:
- What makes Savannah such a unique place?
- Why didn't the rest of Savannah develop in the same traditional, walkable manner as the city center?
- How has auto-oriented design impacted the historic core of the city?
- How do you balance historic preservation concerns and the need to allow cities to move forward?
- What's the impact of large developments like convention centers and arenas?
- Engineers and planners often have a compulsion to fix things, but how do we know when to let a place go? What is the opportunity cost of spending too much time fixing things that are really beyond repair

Thursday Jun 07, 2018
Why is it so hard to get things built?
Thursday Jun 07, 2018
Thursday Jun 07, 2018
This is our first dispatch from the Congress for the New Urbanism (CNU), which took place in Savannah, Georgia in May. Chuck Marohn attended CNU and hosted a series of in-depth podcast conversations about some of the most pressing topics for cities today, with leaders, thinkers, and activists in a whole range of fields. Now we're bringing those podcasts to your ears throughout the summer.
Today's podcast guest is Monte Anderson, a developer based in Texas and a leader of the Incremental Development Alliance.
Monte encourages people to pick a place they love and stay there. That's how you really learn what communities need and how to make them better. And that's what he did by choosing to incrementally improve his hometown.
Questions discussed in this podcast include:
- What if your town seems past the point of getting better? Should you stay anyway?
- What needs to happen in order to encourage development in our towns?
- How do you respond to people who worry that the removal of parking minimums will be harmful to local businesses?
- What's the best sort of business to kickstart a commercial street?
- How do we reconcile the desire to be flexible and encourage new business start-ups, especially in poor neighborhoods, while still ensuring that buildings are safe and basic health codes are met?
- What are the first steps someone should take if they want to become an incremental developer? What if you don't have much money?
- How do you find a balance between investing in a neighborhood and not pricing people out of it?
- What's the difference between a developer and an investor?
