Episodes

Monday Feb 24, 2025
America Needs a New Housing Bargain. Here’s Why.
Monday Feb 24, 2025
Monday Feb 24, 2025
In this episode of the Strong Towns Podcast, Chuck explores the flawed nature of North America’s current “housing bargain,” where most neighborhoods are allowed to stay exactly the same as long as some neighborhoods — usually those that are poorer and have less political clout — are forced to radically change. He proposes a new way forward that respects cities as living and evolving systems.
ADDITIONAL SHOW NOTES
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This Thursday, February 27, Strong Towns will release a toolkit to help city officials welcome incremental housing development. Learn more here.
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Become a member to join the toolkit launch livestream with experts Alli Thurmond Quinlan (Incremental Development Alliance) and Eric Kronberg (Kronberg Urbanists + Architects).
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Chuck Marohn (Substack).

Monday Feb 17, 2025
Remembering Donald Shoup: A Legacy of Curiosity, Credibility and Kindness
Monday Feb 17, 2025
Monday Feb 17, 2025
In this episode of the Strong Towns Podcast, Chuck is joined by Victor Dover, a planner and urban designer. They discuss the work and legacy of Dr. Donald Shoup, an engineer and professor of urban planning who revolutionized the fields of urban planning and parking reform with his book “The High Cost of Free Parking.” They also talk about their own relationships with Dr. Shoup and how he impacted their work as an engineer and planner.
Then, keep listening for a rerun of an interview with Dr. Shoup that Chuck had in 2015.
ADDITIONAL SHOW NOTES
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“The High Cost of Free Parking” (Amazon).
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Victor Dover (LinkedIn).
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Chuck Marohn (Substack).

Tuesday Feb 11, 2025
Bonus Episode: Lessons From 9 Strongest Town Contest Winners
Tuesday Feb 11, 2025
Tuesday Feb 11, 2025
This special episode of the Strong Towns Podcast explores the Strongest Town Contest, including what cities can learn from previous winners, what it means for cities to participate, and a preview of this year's Contest. Joining the discussion are Strong Towns staffers Lauren Ronnander and John Pattison, as well as Stephen Gawron, the former mayor of the 2018 Strongest Town, Muskegon, Michigan.
ADDITIONAL SHOW NOTES
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Nominate your place (anyone can do this for free, even if you’re not a local official or city staff!)
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Chuck Marohn (Substack).

Monday Feb 10, 2025
Ben Hunt: Surviving the Widening Gyre Through Hope and Community
Monday Feb 10, 2025
Monday Feb 10, 2025
Today, Chuck is joined by Ben Hunt, the creator of Epsilon Theory. Their conversation revolves around the concept of the Widening Gyre, a “profound social equilibrium where bad people and bad ideas drive out good people and good ideas.” They discuss this concept from a few different angles:
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How it relates to top-down systems like America’s political systems and corporations.
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How it has led to the loss of a national narrative and increased division and conflict.
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How a community-based approach that focuses on doing the right thing today is the best way out.
ADDITIONAL SHOW NOTES
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Hear more from Ben Hunt:
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“Ben Hunt: We're Not Going to Fix This from the Top Down” (podcast).
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“Ben Hunt: In Praise of Bitcoin” (podcast).
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Ben Hunt (Twitter/X).
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Epsilon Theory (site).
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Chuck Marohn (Substack).

Monday Jan 27, 2025
How Do You Build More Housing When No One Wants Neighborhood Change?
Monday Jan 27, 2025
Monday Jan 27, 2025
In this episode of the Strong Towns Podcast, Chuck discusses housing with Cullum Clark, director of the Economic Growth Initiative at the George W. Bush Institute. They talk about why there is so much resistance to new development, ways that officials and advocates could engage with the public to reduce that resistance, and what the incoming Trump administration could mean for housing.
ADDITIONAL SHOW NOTES
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Learn what comes next for incremental housing in 2025 by tuning into the State of Strong Towns address on January 30 at 4 p.m. EST.

Monday Jan 20, 2025
Debunking the "Slow and Incremental" Myth: The Key to Rapid Housing Growth
Monday Jan 20, 2025
Monday Jan 20, 2025
In this episode of the Strong Towns Podcast, Chuck discusses the common misbelief that an incremental approach to housing development is inherently slow. He explains how an incremental approach can actually be much faster than focusing on large housing projects, what that means for major cities, and how to make incremental housing more appealing to people who don’t want their neighborhoods to change.
ADDITIONAL SHOW NOTES
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Learn what comes next for incremental housing in 2025 by tuning into the State of Strong Towns address on January 30 at 4 p.m.

Monday Jan 13, 2025
Comparing the Strong Towns and YIMBY Approaches to the Housing Crisis
Monday Jan 13, 2025
Monday Jan 13, 2025
The Building Culture Podcast explores holistic solutions to crafting a more beautiful, resilient and thriving world through the built environment. Its host, Austin Tunnell, recently invited Strong Towns President Charles Marohn and California YIMBY’s Nolan Gray onto the show to debate the housing crisis. It was a great conversation that explores how these movements align and differ in their approaches to housing.
ADDITIONAL SHOW NOTES

Monday Dec 23, 2024
Memorable Moments in the History of Strong Towns
Monday Dec 23, 2024
Monday Dec 23, 2024
Over the years, Chuck has added audio clips to the Strong Towns Podcast outro music to memorialize influential moments and experiences he’s had since founding Strong Towns. Today, in honor of that outro music being retired, he breaks down each of these clips, explaining why they’re significant and how these experiences influenced him and the Strong Towns movement as a whole.
ADDITIONAL SHOW NOTES

Monday Dec 16, 2024
From the Federal Government to RV Parks: A Housing Q&A
Monday Dec 16, 2024
Monday Dec 16, 2024
On this episode of the Strong Towns Podcast, Chuck continues answering housing questions submitted by Ohio State University students. The questions cover state and federal housing policy, local government’s role in financing and regulation, local action, the division between urban and rural environments, and temporary housing.
ADDITIONAL SHOW NOTES
- Part 1: "From Building Backyard Cottages to Banning Airbnbs: A Housing Q&A."
- "Escaping the Housing Trap: The Strong Towns Response to the Housing Crisis" by Chuck Marohn and Daniel Herriges.

Friday Dec 13, 2024
From Building Backyard Cottages to Banning Airbnbs: A Housing Q&A
Friday Dec 13, 2024
Friday Dec 13, 2024
On this episode of the Strong Towns Podcast, Chuck answers housing questions submitted by Ohio State University students. The questions cover the history of the housing market, as well as backyard cottages, alternative housing arrangements, and housing finance.
Tune in on Monday for Part 2, where Chuck will answer questions related to other topics, including state and federal housing policy.
ADDITIONAL SHOW NOTES
- "Escaping the Housing Trap: The Strong Towns Response to the Housing Crisis" by Chuck Marohn and Daniel Herriges.