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The Strong Towns Podcast is a weekly conversation on the Strong Towns movement, hosted by Strong Towns Founder and President Charles Marohn and frequently featuring special guests. The podcast explores how we can financially strengthen our cities, towns, and neighborhoods and, in the process, make them better places to live. Join Chuck in examining how everything from urban design to economics to systems theory to psychology helps inform this core question.
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Monday Feb 10, 2025
Monday Feb 10, 2025
Today, Chuck is joined by Ben Hunt, the creator of Epsilon Theory. Their conversation revolves around the concept of the Widening Gyre, a “profound social equilibrium where bad people and bad ideas drive out good people and good ideas.” They discuss this concept from a few different angles:
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How it relates to top-down systems like America’s political systems and corporations.
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How it has led to the loss of a national narrative and increased division and conflict.
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How a community-based approach that focuses on doing the right thing today is the best way out.
ADDITIONAL SHOW NOTES
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Hear more from Ben Hunt:
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“Ben Hunt: We're Not Going to Fix This from the Top Down” (podcast).
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“Ben Hunt: In Praise of Bitcoin” (podcast).
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Ben Hunt (Twitter/X).
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Epsilon Theory (site).
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Chuck Marohn (Substack).
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